Evolving Navigation

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Re: Evolving Navigation

Postby crinklystarfish » Sat Mar 07, 2020 10:39 am

Ta Neil and +1 Ivan. If nothing else it'll be good to chuck at cats hassling the birds on my seed feeder.

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Re: Evolving Navigation

Postby crinklystarfish » Sat Mar 07, 2020 6:22 pm

NeilandPat wrote:
I can't tell at the moment, the trucks in Colombia and I am in Iguazu, Brazil.



How awesome a thing is that to be able to say?

Phil / Mark

Any idea if the Glo (or similar dedicated sat receiver) will help reduce the overheating issue of a smartphone?

Thanks all so far.

Any other nav methods / ideas anyone?

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Re: Evolving Navigation

Postby NeilandPat » Sat Mar 07, 2020 9:23 pm

Remember guys, the link I have was an example. There are loads out there offering different things.

Just search truck sat nav on eBay and read the offered.

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Re: Evolving Navigation

Postby bromleyxphil » Sat Mar 07, 2020 10:34 pm

crinklystarfish wrote:
Phil / Mark

Any idea if the Glo (or similar dedicated sat receiver) will help reduce the overheating issue of a smartphone?

Any other nav methods / ideas anyone?


Sorry mate I use the Glo with the i pad which doesn’t heat up. Works perfectly to aid positioning on my phone and links up faultlessly.

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Re: Evolving Navigation

Postby crinklystarfish » Sun Mar 08, 2020 8:00 am

Ta Phil.

Neil,

You got there, then!

Understood re actual units, as soon as you mentioned brands I started researching here for the most suitable unit for me:

https://xgody.com/collections/best-navigation-gps

As above, I don't want truck functionality - it just artificially restricts opportunities for the way we like to bumble.

At the moment I can see me ending up with a cheapo Chinese satnav, Maps.Me on the phone / tablet (for osm-level research and when away from the truck) and an InReach for emergency comms.

Unless there's something better out there that combines reliable navigation with reasonable topographic detail and excellent battery life.

Should have mentioned earlier - it's crucial for me to have maps stored on the device - I really don't want any reliance on cell networks or Mr Google.

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Re: Evolving Navigation

Postby Ivan C » Sun Mar 08, 2020 12:20 pm

crinklystarfish wrote:

As above, I don't want truck functionality - it just artificially restricts opportunities for the way we like to bumble.


I understand what you're getting at, but I'd imagine non-truck units are car settings, so as long as that's an option on a truck unit then it shouldn't be a problem.
In fact it could be useful if you just want the most straightforward way of covering miles - when not in bumble mode.
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Re: Evolving Navigation

Postby NeilandPat » Sun Mar 08, 2020 1:31 pm

Although mine is a truck sat nav.

There are several default settings, being car, van, bicycle, pedestrian etc.

You can then go to a custom mode and set any sizes and weights so it works perfect with cars to.

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Re: Evolving Navigation

Postby crinklystarfish » Mon Mar 09, 2020 7:50 am

Ivan C wrote:I understand what you're getting at, but I'd imagine non-truck units are car settings, so as long as that's an option on a truck unit then it shouldn't be a problem.
In fact it could be useful if you just want the most straightforward way of covering miles - when not in bumble mode.
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I think most proprietary (western) units have a 'Shorter Distance' and 'Faster Time' setting. Ordinarily, faster time does the straightforward thing; 'Shorter Distance' the bumble thing.

I agree totally that there's no harm in having the 'Truck' option available but it's by no means a given that it'll take you the fastest way to a destination, it almost certainly won't be the shortest, and it's pretty much guaranteed to be the dullest.

Furthermore, in many cases it'll detour completely unnecessarily, so could easily cost more in fuel consumption. On the plus side you're unlikely to be caught out by any super-low bridges and such like. That is frustrating, but thankfully it doesn't happen much (at under 3.5m, anyway).

I was talking to Brian yesterday and one of his priorities is really detailed mapping for walking around once at a destination. The 'best' readily available world-maps I've come across so far are the 'Full Detail' osm maps that are available via OsmAnd (big files, though - over 1GB just for England).

Does anyone know of any more detailed maps readily available on a worldwide basis?
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Re: Evolving Navigation

Postby Ivan C » Mon Mar 09, 2020 8:36 am

That's a pretty fair summary of the benefits and disadvantages of a device deciding your route.
On my Garmin 2610 it was possible to use a PC to "trace" a route onto the map, ie turn by turn and then up-load this to the unit.
This ensured you went exactly where you wanted - a bit like an automated map reader.
A great advantage on a motorcycle where paper maps have a number of issues!
I suppose this brings us to the conclusion that the only way to get the route you want is plan it yourself on a map and then follow it using either paper maps or a device to direct you along it.
A sat nav is an assistance (at best) and never a substitute for knowing where you are :D
I must say this discussion has helped me take a good look at the way we have worked and how it might change.
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Re: Evolving Navigation

Postby crinklystarfish » Mon Mar 09, 2020 8:50 am

Ivan C wrote:...
I suppose this brings us to the conclusion that the only way to get the route you want is plan it yourself on a map and then follow it using [deleted for simplicity] a device to direct you along it...
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Spot on!

I tend to pick the route I actually want using paper or software-based maps and then just force the satnav to replicate this with the use of via points or - if that's too convoluted - I just break the total route up into lots of 'mini-routes'. It works well and gets us to where we actually want to go - but can sometimes take a bit of time to set up.


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