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Re: One for the T244 Owners

Postby Rusape » Sun Oct 20, 2019 9:09 pm

Brian-reynolds wrote:
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Brian-reynolds wrote:I think you will find it is now in Scotland......

...and probably stuck, given the roads I have just driven on up there!


Nope. On Wednesday it was at MC having quite a lot of work done on it. At the pace MC work, I very much doubt it has left there just yet.


So I am right then?


It would appear so Brian.

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Re: One for the T244 Owners

Postby Brian-reynolds » Sun Oct 20, 2019 10:01 pm

Rusape wrote:
Brian-reynolds wrote:
Rusape wrote:
Nope. On Wednesday it was at MC having quite a lot of work done on it. At the pace MC work, I very much doubt it has left there just yet.


So I am right then?


It would appear so Brian.


It had to happen at least once in my life time! A very rare occurrence Sir!

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Re: One for the T244 Owners

Postby crinklystarfish » Mon Oct 21, 2019 8:12 am

bromleyxphil wrote:On Friday I met up with Hugh who owns it on the way up to John o groats. The guy is very pleased with his truck and seems like a decent chap so I wish him well. He did tell me that he bought the truck from Jackson’s and commissioned Motorcraft to build it.


Phil, did the owner give any idea of his intended use of the truck and / or whether he commissioned its build according to his own design?

It’d be useful to know as it’s kind of central to the theme that’s developed on the thread.

The ‘other’ MAN Motorcraft had at the AO show also had a very long and low rear overhang making it a handful to manoeuvre in tight spaces / severely compromising departure angle.

Also, the mock-up design use by MC in this link is - to say the least - an odd way to promote prowess as an expedition truck builder. The idea of taking a Unimog (with the significant amount of designed-in chassis flex they have) and making an integrated coachbuilt from it again smacks of a worrying lack of understanding. I get it’s only a mock up but it’d certainly put me off using them.

The ‘Nu-Vardo’ T244 Ivan first posted is perplexingly tall and, along with a few of the vehicles we’ve seen from MC are - by design - significantly compromised in terms of their ability to tackle anything but well-surfaced roads and wide open spaces.

Just trying to understand the current state of the UK professional converters’ industry and whether it’s the supply or demand side that’s at play in making stuff that looks tough but might struggle once off trunk roads.

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Re: One for the T244 Owners

Postby bromleyxphil » Tue Oct 22, 2019 7:31 am

Hi Steve
Didn’t get into much detail other than he was pleased with the truck and the job Motorcraft had done. He had one or two snags but that is to be expected on a project of that size. He is an experienced Overlander from a LR and roof tent background. He has crossed Africa and done the America’s but said now being 65 he wants a little more comfort on his travels. Gary Shears told me that he has been commissioned to make a promotional video using that truck during which they took it off road. He said it was “super impressive” and better than he expected it to be. The video is due out at the end of this month so we can all see it perform then. When we met up last Friday we didn’t talk specifics but I got the impression that Hugh specified the truck and he intends overlanding in it.

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Re: One for the T244 Owners

Postby crinklystarfish » Tue Oct 22, 2019 8:21 am

Thanks Phil,

I genuinely hope the truck meets the chaps expectations but maintain it's simple fact that something so long, tall, wide and heavy just isn't terribly well suited to the freedom of movement associated with the concept of overlanding.

Simple fact, too, that the mass, bulk, and compromised breakover and departure angles reduce the vehicle's off-road capability.

These things said, and like always, the 'success' of the vehicle will depend on the chap's intended use.
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Re: One for the T244 Owners

Postby PeteB » Wed Oct 23, 2019 7:22 am

What are the chances of someone buying this one and converting it into an 'apocalypse-now' overlander. Currently for sale in a Withams auction. May be style over substance, however that suits some.
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