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Road legal

Postby grandison » Thu May 24, 2018 6:22 pm

hi all
of to buy my base vehicle leyland daf 4x4.
But that's where the confusion may start and im hoping your be able to clear the MUD.

Q, is a hgv ,registered (ie number plates , V5 and MOT legal to drive on the highway??

i have seen advertisements for the Daf that state the above but have no run under bars fitted . is this legal ??

I want a daf that's still a private hgv until the build conversion is finished as i will have to drive between home and storage.

thanks for taking the time to help

Will

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Re: Road legal

Postby crinklystarfish » Fri May 25, 2018 7:09 am

Is there a link to the ad please?

A few dodgy ads have appeared lately claiming all sorts of nonsense in order to ease the sale.

It could be legal - but most probably isn't.

If it's registered as a standard HGV it needs sideguards and a tachograph. If it's not registered as a standard HGV but someone has instead dodged the system (loads of ways to do that) - it could bite you later on - as soon as the drive home, in fact.

More details needed...

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Re: Road legal

Postby grandison » Mon May 28, 2018 7:35 pm

Thanks for the reply and also a great write up on Specialist vehicle status.
I have spoken to two Mod vehicle suppliers and both have stated side bars must be fitted As for the Tachograph information on DVSA Government website state that if an exemption form on grounds of Private lgv is submitted at MOTtest i dont require one to be fitted.

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Re: Road legal

Postby crinklystarfish » Tue May 29, 2018 7:50 am

It used to be the case that only two exemptions applied to most 'normal' truck where a private hgv that isn't used to carry any form of 'goods' could be declared tacho exempt if it was over 25yrs old OR had a maximum authorised mass of 7,500kg.

Since a revision in March this year there's now an additional tachograph exemption that's likely to be well used in our particular circles:

"Vehicle is no longer used for the carriage of goods and taxed as Private HGV or Historic"

That seems OK but the wording is a bit troublesome. The exemption seems to rely on the vehicle already being taxed as PHGV or Historic. Now, to be taxed it has to be tested and you won't be able to get an unregistered truck initially tested without a tachograph fitted. DVSA / DVLA do like to make it difficult.

If the wording was:

"Vehicle is no longer used for the carriage of goods and WILL BE taxed as Private HGV or Historic"

Things would be so much clearer. It'll be interesting to see how DVSA test centres interpret it.

Of course, once your body type is officially recognised as Motorcaravan by DVLA you don't need to trouble yourself with such things at all (providing it's just for your own private use).

As you've probably realised, a few people / dealers are pretty unscrupulous and have no issue in passing off vehicles that are not road legal.

If you find one and are worried about the legality - get back to us.

Buyer beware and all that.


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