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Very clever entry door design

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Re: Very clever entry door design

Postby Ivan C » Thu Nov 07, 2019 4:35 pm

Innovative yes, not so sure how practical it would be on a wet day after muddy boots, dripping muddy water inside.
Certainly fine for the weather he's having while demo-ing it :D
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Re: Very clever entry door design

Postby PeteB » Thu Nov 07, 2019 7:07 pm

Very smart, although strikes me 1) he has too much time on his hands and 2) he isn't too worried about weight or complexity.

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Re: Very clever entry door design

Postby NeilandPat » Fri Nov 08, 2019 3:33 am

The Australian company All Terrain Warriors had this design and abandoned it.

Totally useless unless you can always gaurentee having a couple of meters of clearance.

Believe me this isn't the case on many occasions so your locked out, or worse still locked in your cabin.

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Re: Very clever entry door design

Postby crinklystarfish » Fri Nov 08, 2019 7:49 am

It's clever and neat but conjours the overlanding mantra that just because we are capable of doing something like this doesn't mean we should.

+1 with Neil. The space required to deploy this just does not lend itself to the realities of real-world travel once away from deserts, steppes, or other 'featureless' topography.

But, it sounds like the bloke's from Aus. If so, it'd be less of a problem in this regard at least as once away from settlements it's pretty much all just red earth and a scattering of eucalyptus trees.

Ivan's point re the mess it would cause inside is a good one; and I also share the view that it's essentially Heath Robinson.

I suspect he'll come to rue the day...

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Re: Very clever entry door design

Postby Ivan C » Fri Nov 08, 2019 9:56 am

Now there's a very good example of a filter that I try to put any "moment of genius" ideas through.
First, look for any obvious downsides - in this case I saw the issue with the wet day etc.
Then, ask yourself "if this is such a genius idea, why isn't everyone doing it"?
It is entirely possible that convention has followed an easier, though less effective method and this idea is feasible though more difficult/expensive/time-consuming etc.
Or (more likely) I have missed the blindingly obvious, in this case the clearance issue.
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Re: Very clever entry door design

Postby crinklystarfish » Fri Nov 08, 2019 11:19 am

Fair to say that steps are one of the most common things that are fluffed on overlander builds.

Some hopefully-useful pointers / a subdued rant appear in the book...

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Re: Very clever entry door design

Postby christyler » Fri Nov 08, 2019 12:58 pm

My thinking is that entry steps should be simple and manual,

https://youtu.be/LoOiq5043iw

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Re: Very clever entry door design

Postby Rusape » Fri Nov 08, 2019 6:21 pm

With that accent, he is definitely a Kiwi, not Australian.

I saw a similar manually-opening step system on a Carbon bodied truck at BK this year.
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Re: Very clever entry door design

Postby NeilandPat » Fri Nov 08, 2019 7:12 pm

They tend to a applied to cabins that have curved sides. Ie convexed as you look from the outside.

People make these loaf shaped cabins with no thought of how the door will fit . Most door mechanisms such as hinges and locks lend themselves to being straight.

You only have to look at the hinge system on an aeroplane door to realise how hard it is.

I think people create the cabin then scratch their heads for a considerable time trying to sort out the door.

Hinging from the bottom or top is the only real solution and this in turn brings loads of other issues.

In a nut shell.

Crap idea imho

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