Daf T244 Build Planning

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Re: Daf T244 Build Planning

Postby Brian-reynolds » Fri Aug 17, 2018 6:36 pm

There is loads of weight you can remove on these trucks, fro the helicopter lifting rings on the front wheels to the lifting rings on the rear of the chassis, loads of it! Camo netting hoops and box for the poles....

If I did it again I would try like Ivan says and use a rail on rail system. Mine has a full anti-torsion designed by Jon Bull, whom should also be at the show I hope? Like I said, there is so many different ways of doing things and of course different materials but at the end it is your build so you will be deciding if you have done it correctly, and if you have, please let us know as we all seem to be regretting something or another, it is the way of the beast!

Compromise is the name of the game..... build it one mistake at a time as someone once said!

How true.

I live full time in my truck and like the size of it, but when travelling around I wish it was a bit smaller, then I park and am glad of the size..... never right.

Give me a call if you want to pop over, but do not expect to talk to an "expert" just someone that has given it my best shot, or would have done if I had known what I was doing!

07715 428420 will find me asleep somewhere....

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Re: Daf T244 Build Planning

Postby ralph » Sat Aug 18, 2018 7:16 am

I used 50mm x 50mm 3mm steel box section but changed to 50mm x 25mm 3mm for some of the bracing, the sub frame/ floor is 100mmm x 50mm 3mm I also used some this size in the rear wall where the spare wheel will be mounted and 2mm aluminum for the side cladding but 3mm chequer plate for the front top, roof and bottom rear. I worked the weight out as just under 750KG . I have finished cladding and have fitted the insulation and am just about to start lining it out. The box structure seems to be plenty strong enough and the 2mm cladding is OK in hind sight I think 1.5 or even 1mm would have been OK for the sides and 3 mm was a bit of overkill for the roof but at least i can walk on it with out any flexing.

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Re: Daf T244 Build Planning

Postby steverjuk » Mon Aug 20, 2018 3:43 pm

Brain
The truck is definitely going on a diet before I start building, all the things that are surplus to requirement are getting removed. Every KG I remove is a KG I've got to work with when building.
I must admit that finding those compromises is the name of the game, I'm trying to go as small and light as possible to increase manoeuvrability and fuel economy.
I'll drop you a call and arrange a meetup as I want to have a look around you build and try to steel all your good ideas. Currently working through my C class driving license and going to sort out my medical tomorrow.
Ivan / Ralph
I think I'm going to go for 2mm cladding as it should be strong enough and the weight saving / cost savings are worth it I think. Also thinking about my spare wheel carrier as I'm thinking about maybe carrying 2 spares, although I've read up how much they weigh 135KG and now thinking do I really need 2.

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Re: Daf T244 Build Planning

Postby Brian-reynolds » Mon Aug 20, 2018 3:57 pm

Hi Steve, there is something very therapeutic about removing bits to save weight! I really did enjoy that bit! Including moving some air tanks from under the battery box and re-locating them in between the chassis rails, then getting made a new aluminium battery box to go in the removed box's place. Much lighter and higher out of the way of rocks etc.....

Good luck with the medical and with the training, all good fun and a good move on your part.

I was also wondering about the outside cladding, there is a material a friend has used which I cannot remember the name of! Old age! But it is thin wood/aluminium/wood, all very thin and very strong, might be worth giving that some thought?

I am planning on ripping my outer 1.5mm fibreglass cladding and re covering with this stuff... may be difficult if I cannot remember its name though....

I will be back..... going to ask a friend!

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Re: Daf T244 Build Planning

Postby Brian-reynolds » Mon Aug 20, 2018 4:17 pm

Sorry total lies I just told you all!!!!

It is called Dibond and it is actually 0.3mm Ali / 1.7mm polyurethane / 0.3 Ali again.... very light and very strong!

Sorry for the lies, hope I got it right this time round.....

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Re: Daf T244 Build Planning

Postby ralph » Tue Aug 21, 2018 8:04 am

I was thinking two spare wheels but have decided one wheel and one tyre only since I have split rims.
I also looked at dibond but as an interior lining...I believe that it’s the stuff that they make sign boards out of. I did look at honeycomb panels with aluminium bonded to them but the steel frame / aluminium skin suited my skills better.

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Re: Daf T244 Build Planning

Postby steverjuk » Tue Aug 21, 2018 2:09 pm

Hi Brian
Removing the wood from the load bed and all the bits I don't need I'm hoping to save over >100KG. I'm used to working with steel and aluminium may look at the Dibond stuff for use inside.
Ralp the more I think about the it less I think I need two spare wheels, can't really justify the weight
Does anyone know what the tyres are on the DAF so I can have a look how readily available replacements would be outside England?
I've done some redesigning and got the weight done to 730KG all cladded, decided to go 2mm on the sides and 3mm on the roof. Want to be able to walk around on the roof to fix the solar panels as well as maybe store stuff up there is we really need more space. I've also added more floor supports, made the cuts on the steel way easier with only needing full width cuts and also added more struts.
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