S75 Overland Truck Build

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Re: S75 Overland Truck Build

Postby Ivan C » Fri Jun 14, 2019 10:15 am

Thanks Steve :)
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Re: S75 Overland Truck Build

Postby ralph » Sat Jun 15, 2019 9:41 pm

Thanks for the ideas I already have a slide out two rung ladder for quick access or use when I don’t want the steps on the ground but I am also thinking about some inclined steps.

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Re: S75 Overland Truck Build

Postby ralph » Sun Jul 28, 2019 4:27 pm

I have been at home a couple of months now and following my trip to Bad Kissingen i have managed to get some motivation and have made some progress. Just taken some photos to send to dvla to re-register the truck as a motor home. Hopefully it will all go smoothly. The truck is far from finished but is getting there the accommodation is about 80% done with the only major job left being the bathroom , i am making my own wet room floor to go in there and a composting toilet, and trimming all the edges/ corners etc. Also I have to sort out the outside kitchen slide out .
The biggest jobs left are the truck cab / engine electrics, nothing is connected , and fitting out the cab which is completely empty. All that will be left then is the MOT I am hoping by the start of Sept ....fingers crossed!!
Oh and i found some access steps just need a bit of modification to make them fit .
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Re: S75 Overland Truck Build

Postby DaveS » Thu Aug 01, 2019 11:54 am

Looks tidy - nice use of the space. Good luck with the re-registration.

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Re: S75 Overland Truck Build

Postby the big merc » Thu Aug 08, 2019 7:01 pm

Hope your re-registration goes ok.
Our registration of our imported vehicle had to be with a current MOT which we had done on the chassis number. After that it was relatively easy to get the registration completed.
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Re: S75 Overland Truck Build

Postby ralph » Fri Aug 09, 2019 9:48 pm

Thanks its just changing it from an agricultural vehicle to a motor home so hopefully there wont be any problems. Not sure how long it will take i am hoping to have it on the road by the end of the month but that maybe optimistic.

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Re: S75 Overland Truck Build

Postby ralph » Wed Aug 28, 2019 9:58 pm

I was hoping to go for a MOT next week, thinking the MOT cwould be as presented I.e a motor home and therefore class 4 but I have been told that this is no longer the case and cannot have a class 4 MOT until it is registered as a motor home by DVLA.
I was also advised that I need side and rear repeater lights...which I haven’t fitted and rear mudguards, I thought because the wheels were under the rear body they would be ok with just mud flaps Also the led side indicators I fitted are apparently not acceptable because they are not visible enough from behind. So a bit more work to do anyway.
Hopefully DVLA will issue the paper work in a couple of weeks and I can get it finished.

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Re: S75 Overland Truck Build

Postby Brian-reynolds » Thu Aug 29, 2019 8:49 am

I feel it is about time DVLA were seriously looked into with their practices, they do not seem to have a clue what they are doing!

Simon has had his truck fail on being registered as a Motor Caravan for the 6th and final time, because it does not "look like a motor caravan"..... I will enclose a picture to show that it could not look more like a motor caravan if he tried! Actually I only have one picture of Simon's truck, the one with the angled roof on the left, but I am sure you will see what I mean!
He has a rear entry door built into the angle part, and all the other stuff internally that you need for a motor caravan, but all they concentrate on is the outside view....

As always, the DVLA can not provide information as to what a motor caravan must look like!

I also think the letter DVLA sent to him may be bordering on slanderous!

Anyway, good luck with the MOT, I have heard of people just taking their vehicle along and saying it is a motor caravan and have gotten away with it, but I am sure they were wrong in doing so, but if it achieves a good result in the end, who cares....
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Re: S75 Overland Truck Build

Postby crinklystarfish » Fri Aug 30, 2019 7:52 am

Regarding the re-designation of body type to motorcaravan, it really is silly season.

Some will know that a few months ago I started the formal process of escalating complaints on behalf of another T244 owner in order to try to get some sense from DVLA.

I got two stages into the process and usefully established they DO NOT have any policy guidance and simply make it up as they go along. They cannot tell you what a motorcaravan 'looks like' because they have no working definition.

So, if the 19-yr old who's worked there three weeks doesn't think your conversion looks like a motorcaravan - whatever one looks like - well that's just tough.

You'll instead end up having your vehicle officially designated as a goods vehicle of some sort and have to fit sidebars, will be lucky to get proper insurance, will be subject to prohibitions relating to goods vehicles down some roads (and believe me the number of 3.5t - 5t goods vehicles prohibitions throughout the continent of Europe is now eye-watering), will be restricted using some European roads at certain times, may have to pay goods-vehicle tolls etc, etc.

All because of DVLA's incompetence, intransigence and unaccountability.

They are almost certainly acting unlawfully and it needs challenging. I'd suggested to the chap I was trying to help some months ago when I started the challenge that we'd got to the stage of involving his MP and the DfT. I'd mostly prepared the challenge on his behalf but then he went off travelling outside of Europe and is unlikely to return (or care) anytime soon.

And so the challenge fizzled.

It angers me that a public body is so dictatorial and corporately incompetent but the time and energy required to force the issue is not insignificant and as my own truck is already a motorcaravan, this is not my fight.

My current take is that if you try to play by the rules you may well be shafted so it would be entirely understandable if you used their corporate incompetence to your advantage and cheated. You can cheat in a number of ways.

If you can't work out the dodges, one thing that might be worth trying is to get some huge "THIS VEHICLE IS A MOTORCARAVAN" graphics made up and stick them on the front, back and both sides of your vehicle. Send that picture off to DVLA along with all the others and supporting documents.

I'm serious. One of their nebulous arguments is that if law enforcement and other agencies see the vehicle on the road they must instantly be able to recognise what type of vehicle it is. Adding such graphics kind of spells it out and would weaken their case for refusal.

Good luck, you will probably need it - or maybe not, as it's just as likely the 19-yr old who's worked there three weeks can't be bothered to think about your application so just rubber stamps it.

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Bad news from DVLA

Postby ralph » Sun Sep 08, 2019 6:04 pm

When i brought the truck, way back in 2015, i obviously knew it had been in an accident and had suffered heavy damage to the cab, see photos in the first post, but the seller assured me it wasnt recorded as a write off and I checked I could insure it OK and DVLA issued me with a V5c no problems.
Now I have finally finished the build and requested to reclassify it as a motor home so I can MOT it DVLA have in formed me it was recorded as a Cat B write off and that the law has changed since i brought it and they cannot issue a V5c . They have informed me that i need to convince the insurance company that classed as a Cat B write off to reclassify it as a Cat C or I have to take it to be crushed!!
Cat B says the body shell should be crushed but other parts can be salvaged which is basically what i have done i removed the damaged cab and fitted a new one.
The problem is I that have tried to keep the original VIN / identity. I cannot bear to think about having to crush it there must be a way of getting it re-registered....I will be calling the insurance company concerned and DVLA tomorrow but i am not expecting anything to be simple.


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