Sprinter 4x4 - last of the old shape

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Sprinter 4x4 - last of the old shape

Postby Chris S » Wed Nov 27, 2019 8:06 pm

The last couple of years seem to have whizzed by, but the Delica went and was replaced by something boring and sensible, I've ended up as a wage slave and one bonus has been that I now get a vehicle provided by my employer - so we did the sensible thing of getting rid of my car and replacing it with our next project :)

The criteria was a selection of: Sub 3.5t , ideally 4 wheel drive (or at least relatively high ground clearance) probably MWB, Hi top not critical but would be nice to at least nearly stand up), seat 3 and ideally be simple enough to work on using spanners and hammers rather than a laptop. I really liked the idea of building something ourselfs but Mrs S preferred the idea of an off the shelf build.

We came close to pulling the trigger on a Hiace 4x4 camper a couple of times were put off by the fact that most of them are warm weather machines, parts are hard to come by and rust free ones seem very expensive (and there doesn't seem to be a lot of panels available for repairing rusty ones...)

That pretty much left the AWD transit or the Sprinter 4x4 - I really wanted to go the sprinter route but on the whole they were all out of budget, so really it was looking like the transit (albeit a bit reluctantly) - it really felt to me like it was the lovechild of a FWD and RWD transit, including the rear dampers that leave sparks over the wrong type of speed bump.

Anyhoo, perusing the usual online sites, we stumbled across a late model T1N MWB sprinter 4x4 with a reasonable chunk of MOT, acceptable levels of rust, high but not astronomical miles, fairly local and with no VAT to go on - but most importantly within budget and less than the cheapest transit we'd been considering :)

Picked it up a week or so ago and happy so far.

Pics to follow as it evolves.

One thng I'm struggling with though is what spec oil for the front diff and transfer box - without being on any of the social medias, so far I can find US based info (which is usually on the aftermarket conversions) and I'm struggling a bit with the german based info so far. Anyone know where the UK based sprinter 4x4 people lurk online (other than bookface)?

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Re: Sprinter 4x4 - last of the old shape

Postby Tookey » Wed Nov 27, 2019 8:30 pm

When 'Dave S' shows up its likely he can point you in the right direction. What site did you find the Sprinter on? I check the 'usuals' regularly and am surprised I missed that as 4x4 Sprinters are high up on my 'maybe' base vehicle list.

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Re: Sprinter 4x4 - last of the old shape

Postby Ivan C » Wed Nov 27, 2019 8:32 pm

Miller Oils have a very good "what oil" section, I rate their products highly as well.
The van sounds good - Enjoy!
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Re: Sprinter 4x4 - last of the old shape

Postby DaveS » Wed Nov 27, 2019 11:01 pm

Hiya Chris and welcome to the Sprinter 4x4 club. Neat little trucks. I have all the papers for mine - can check oils tomorrow and let you know.

Mine has been very reliable, apart from front wheel bearings - seems a weakness on the 4x4 varients so worth checking early for play.

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Re: Sprinter 4x4 - last of the old shape

Postby DaveS » Thu Nov 28, 2019 10:38 am

Right - there are several transfer boxes, so you need to know which one you have - some use gear oil, some use ATF - see link here:
http://www.truckstar.com.ua/fullmengen_ ... YLztrOtKcE

This covers the 3 types of transfer box used.

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Re: Sprinter 4x4 - last of the old shape

Postby Chris S » Sun Dec 01, 2019 1:04 pm

Tookey wrote: What site did you find the Sprinter on?


Ebay, but it was only on a three day listing so quite easily missed. The photos didn't really do it justice and it wasonly an hours drive away so I went to see it a few hours before the liting finished, expecting him to want to let the auction run and he was happy enough to end it early and got another set of front doors in the deal too.

Ivan C wrote:Miller Oils have a very good "what oil" section, I rate their products highly as well.
The van sounds good - Enjoy!
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Ta, seems like they're a bit sketchy on the 4x4 version though.

DaveS wrote:Right - there are several transfer boxes, so you need to know which one you have - some use gear oil, some use ATF - see link here:
This covers the 3 types of transfer box used.


Thanks Dave, just the ticket - mine's got low box on it so looks like ATF then.

That's good to know about the wheel bearings, I'm heading outside shortly to fit new pads all round so will have wiggle.

It's a low roof, so not going to be everyones first choice but it's taller inside than most other low roof vans and a whole lot taller than the delica was so I'm sure we'll be fine.

Plan is to try and do as much of the worst bits of bodywork as soon as we get chance, then window in the sliding door, window in the panel behind the drivers seat, diesel night heater, split charge, roof vent and then start to work out what's going where and then begin insulating and building.

Jury is still out on whether to blow it over with some raptor liner paint once it's done - I like how easy it appears to be to apply and that its hard wearing, just not so sure on the textured finish - but hey, that's still a long way off yet :)

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Re: Sprinter 4x4 - last of the old shape

Postby DaveS » Sun Dec 01, 2019 3:47 pm

No worries Chris.

Had ours a while now, and sounds like the same spec/size (313 MWB low roof), mine had a window in the side door, we added another in the panel behind the drivers door - it was already a crew van, so had a second row of seats, etc.

Sprinter Source is a decent forum, mostly US though, and there is an active FB Sprinter 4x4 group. But any immediate questions, just give me a shout.

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Re: Sprinter 4x4 - last of the old shape

Postby Chris S » Sat Dec 07, 2019 8:37 pm

Almost the same, but ours is only a 311. I was quite surprised how well it goes though considering.

I'd have liked a crew van really - I'm still torn whether to go for the three seats up front or try to retrofit part of a second row and then go for two singles in the front.

Still working my way through the little bits any new project wants once it arrives (oils, filters, brakes fettling etc) but once thats out of the way we'll start working through the bodywork that goes along with Sprinter ownership :o and then onto the good bits.

Got around 300 or so miles under it's belt so far and other than needing to swap out the fuel filter unexpectedly at work after running it a bit low (it was on the to do list, honest), it's gone well so far.

Thanks for the pointers re. Sprinter Source and the FB page, I'm still not on FB but looks like Sprinter Source will take a while to work through in the meantime.

All being well, Santa's bringing a haynes manual so that should just leave the 4wd system to find some further info/manuals for.....

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Re: Sprinter 4x4 - last of the old shape

Postby DaveS » Sat Dec 07, 2019 11:59 pm

No worries Chris.

You may struggle to swap the front dual seat for a single - the only company that I know making the single bases stopped a year or so ago (I got one of the last made). They do come up second hand but are pretty rare. Keep an eye on e-bay and move quick if you see one.

Good luck :-)


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