MAN LE18.280

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MAN LE18.280

Postby PeteB » Thu Oct 31, 2019 7:22 pm

Help sought. Anyone know much about these? My understanding of the naming is that this will be an 18t GVW, 280hp vehicle. I got interested as there is one on autotrader at what looks an attractive price:
https://trucks.autotrader.co.uk/classif ... 6299525343
Not LHD but based on the pictures it looks (suspiciously) tidy, if not road registered. I'm sure I'd be giving up on a sub 7.5t build too.

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Re: MAN LE18.280

Postby Ivan C » Thu Oct 31, 2019 7:47 pm

Yup, 18t, 280hp.
It's certainly had a "once-over" but that wouldn't worry me.
Very well priced, I'd be getting it home!
I'd guess the chassis cab would be around 5.5- 6t so sub-7.5t isn't really on
I doubt if it will sit about long
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Looking closer, the cab could stand some tidying - heater controls, window winder and a wavy front panel.
Looks like a hard 20k miles, though a 280 is a rare thing.
I wonder what body was on it? Gritter?

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Re: MAN LE18.280

Postby crinklystarfish » Fri Nov 01, 2019 9:00 am

Just a couple of quick observations:

The blow-over makes it look superficially tidy but I suspect it's been blown over for good reason. The interior probably belies the reality of actual condition.

The suspension is designed to cope with 18 tonnes so even if built up to the standard-ish 10 tonne mark it's going to give a very unforgiving ride unless the suspension is modified to soften things up some.

In spite of these things, if it runs and drives well it's still something of a bargain.

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Re: MAN LE18.280

Postby PeteB » Fri Nov 01, 2019 9:06 am

Thanks for the detail/comments both. Good to know it looks broadly OK from the photos. As you say, a few bits to tidy in the cab and maybe a dent in the front (passenger side above headlight). Chassis has been cleaned up so thoroughly there is no telling what is hidden there. Good point on ride (dis)comfort if loaded well below 18T too.

I was curious on the history as it is such low mileage and doesn't look road registered (no plates, underrun bar, etc). No sure whether to be nervous or happy on that.

I need to weigh up the compromises of RHD and >7.5T, balanced against price and apparent soundness.

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Re: MAN LE18.280

Postby Ivan C » Fri Nov 01, 2019 9:34 am

Thinking about the weight - most 18t trucks were M series, if it is indeed an L the weight of the chassis cab may be surprisingly light.
Look on the chassis behind the drivers wheel and/or on the plate on the driver's door.
Steve makes a good point about suspension, a leaf (or two) removed would help.
Tread carefully!
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Re: MAN LE18.280

Postby Rusape » Fri Nov 01, 2019 9:25 pm

Ivan C wrote:Thinking about the weight - most 18t trucks were M series, if it is indeed an L the weight of the chassis cab may be surprisingly light.
Ivan C


Ivan that is an interesting point. My truck is designated an M2000L90 on all the documents from MAN.
However the original Type approval document shows it as an LE 18.285.

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Re: MAN LE18.280

Postby jaybee » Mon Nov 18, 2019 10:09 pm

Did anybody go to see this? Is it in bad condition underneath?

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Re: MAN LE18.280

Postby PeteB » Tue Nov 19, 2019 7:23 am

I didn't look at it. Decided it was too big for me.

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Re: MAN LE18.280 / Merc 1017

Postby PeteB » Thu Dec 05, 2019 7:10 pm

The business selling this MAN 18.280 now has a Mercedes 1017 on their website too:

https://www.sheltonmotors.co.uk/mercede ... lhd/11251/

Again, the chassis looks lovely and clean for a 30-40 year old truck. At odds with the state of the cab. However it is LHD and similar size to a T244 so I am more tempted. Any views on these as a base vehicle?

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Re: MAN LE18.280

Postby crinklystarfish » Fri Dec 06, 2019 9:06 am

crinklystarfish wrote:
PeteB wrote:... Every design I do ends up closer to 5m long so looks like a stripped down T244 is the best choice. Comments/advice on this logic welcome


You could do a great deal worse but there are a good few older trucks that will start at a similar stripped-down weight. Merc 1017A or DAF YA4440 are just two that have all the right junk in all the right places and will support slightly larger hab areas.
It's tight, though, and lightweight materials will need to be used. Any ideas of things like generators, winches, large (lead acid) battery banks, 'extra' spare wheels, motorbikes... the list goes on, may have to be struck out.

The unladen you see on some web sites are pretty arbitrary so it's best to treat them with a pinch of salt. A weighbridge is the only real answer - or good info from someone that's actually stripped and weighed the base vehicle of choice.


As above, 1017s are extremely popular and competent and will give you circa 2 tonnes to work with if stripped right back to the essentials.

Like the other 'tidy' truck that popped up quite recently, all many companies do with these vehicles is blast them all over with cheap paint to make them look nice. The cab condition is a better indicator of actual condition.

Mileage is good and it looks like it might be worth further consideration but I'd personally be wanting to see images prior to the blow-over or at least be looking closely for signs of corrosion under the gloop.


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