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Re: Truck MOT

Postby crinklystarfish » Tue Aug 07, 2018 7:35 am

The Living Van thing was another DVLA phase: they're through it now (for now, anyway...).

The living van red herring is VERY old news and has NO relevance to us re the May 2018 MoT changes - as long as you do not carry goods in your overlander and do not have any obvious load space where goods could be carried.

For genuine passenger-only-carrying overlanding trucks, AND IF your reg doc states body type 'motorcaravan', you still just need a straightforward Class 4 test - albeit our vehicles will now be subject to further checks within that Class 4 test as a result of the May 2018 changes.

As my post above, this means further tests to spring brakes, some steering components and other bits and bobs but as far as I can see as long as your truck is in good fettle there's nothing to fear.

Here's an example of the changes that WILL apply to us and is taken from an advice-to-testers presentation:

"Directive 2014/45 Inspection Manual implementation changes May 20th 2018
Version 1.0 February 2018:

Brakes

Remember that Class 4 can be large vehicles, be careful not to confuse these for ‘cars’ & LGVs:

Slack Adjusters
Spring Brakes
Actuators
Air dryers
Antifreeze pumps
Endurance braking systems
Air and vacuum systems (Not vacuum assisted)"


It's this kind of thing that I suspect the staff at the garage in question are NOT authorised (by DVSA) to test and that's why they have told Andy they need to take his truck to a DVSA test station.

I accept there could be something buried deep withing the changes BUT I'm reasonably confident that all the stuff relating to emissions etc will not affect T244-based overlanding trucks that are correctly registered as motorcaravans.

For example, the new requirement relating to emissons states:

"Tests for diesel cars and heavy vehicles are to be tightened up to ensure vehicles have a critical exhaust filter if one had originally been fitted as standard".

Most trucks of 'our' era did not have "critical exhaust filter" as standard so this simply doesn't apply to us.

Again - this is the manual testers work to:

https://www.mot-testing.service.gov.uk/ ... class3457/

At this point I think there's a case for Andy to bypass the local garage and just present the truck for a Class 4 test at the nearest DVSA test station. They're the chaps who SHOULD be in the best position to apply the new regs without misinterpretation or confusion.
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Re: Truck MOT

Postby crinklystarfish » Tue Aug 07, 2018 7:43 am

DVSA test stations (and ATFs) can be found here:

https://www.gov.uk/book-a-single-annual-test-online

Booking a Class 4 at one of these SHOULD be the best way to avoid incorrect interpretation of the new changes.

In Andy's position I'd RTFM then go to one of these - I suspect it will all be pretty painless.

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Re: Truck MOT

Postby sparks101 » Tue Aug 07, 2018 8:58 am

Cheers Steve seems more straight forward I put money on it that you would be all over it :D
Neil, it was Owen I spoke to, at length. I don’t think he is trying to have us over, just a different interpretation!

Going to get it booked in.

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Re: Truck MOT

Postby ClivePhoto » Tue Aug 07, 2018 10:29 am

crinklystarfish wrote:DVSA test stations (and ATFs) can be found here:

https://www.gov.uk/book-a-single-annual-test-online

Booking a Class 4 at one of these SHOULD be the best way to avoid incorrect interpretation of the new changes.

In Andy's position I'd RTFM then go to one of these - I suspect it will all be pretty painless.


When my local MOT station clised I spent ages searching for somewhere that could take a large vehicle. The problem you will most likely encounter at HGV test centres is they don't seem to have testers authorised to issue Class 4 MOTs. Which makes sense really.

Ditchking brake test with in accelerometer in the cab. Drive down the road and hit the brakes when the manbin the passenger seat says. "But not too hard!"

Hope they can still test mine. Andy will let us know.

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Re: Truck MOT

Postby sparks101 » Tue Aug 07, 2018 5:42 pm

Booked in with Ditchlings, no probs with the booking, let's see what happens on the test.... 31/08/18.
watch this space

cheers everyone

Andy

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Re: Truck MOT

Postby Reece » Tue Aug 07, 2018 9:29 pm

I used Colas in Ringmer, quite near Ditchling, for Class 4. No problem at all. £56

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Re: Truck MOT

Postby crinklystarfish » Wed Aug 08, 2018 6:28 am

ClivePhoto wrote:When my local MOT station clised I spent ages searching for somewhere that could take a large vehicle. The problem you will most likely encounter at HGV test centres is they don't seem to have testers authorised to issue Class 4 MOTs. Which makes sense really...


All DVSA test stations (not that many left unfortunately) should be able to issue Class 4 MoTs. Some of the ATFs may not be able to as their main trade is in heavy goods vehicles and busses, but most should.

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Re: Truck MOT

Postby ClivePhoto » Wed Aug 08, 2018 12:38 pm

crinklystarfish wrote:All DVSA test stations (not that many left unfortunately) should be able to issue Class 4 MoTs. Some of the ATFs may not be able to as their main trade is in heavy goods vehicles and busses, but most should.


That's what I said but you'll struggle to find a DVSA test station that's open let alone got a tester in it. They were talking 3 months wait for an HGV test and no class 4 in Guildford. Even if you can find an HGV test centre able to issue class 4 MOT they expect you to pay the same as you would for the HGV test which is quite a lot more than class 4.


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