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Truck MOT

Postby sparks101 » Sat Aug 04, 2018 9:33 am

Guys,

I have had a letter through for my MOT renewal and tried to book it. I have used this firm for the last four years.
I have been told that the law changed in May 2018 and the truck (over 5t) needs to go through a pre MOT and then a full HGV MOT at a HGV testing station (But as a class 4) and it has to have various plates on it including weight and emissions. This going to cost several hundred pounds.

I have literally jus got off the phone so no research done at all, but does anyone know the score with this ?
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Andy

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Re: Truck MOT

Postby crinklystarfish » Sat Aug 04, 2018 10:36 am

Andy, is your's shown as body type 'motorcaravan' on the reg doc?

I was aware some new points to test were now applicable to what are now termed 'Large Class 4 vehicles', ie < 9 seat passenger vehicles over 2500kg MAM - but wasnt aware that any of these were too dramatic. I had a quick look through new requirements a couple of months ago but didn't see anything that would require any changes to vehicles or testing formats.

Lots of the changes only apply to vehicles first used / registered after certain dates and older trucks registered as motorcaravans may escape these requirements.

Maybe I missed something - watching with interest...

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Re: Truck MOT

Postby NeilandPat » Sat Aug 04, 2018 12:57 pm

I hope this isn't the case. I know this garage and they have always been sound so I think or hope it's a bit of mis interpretation.

There is FB group for 7.5t and over campers. There are plenty of vehicles on there that look like they would struggle to pass any sort of test. There are also plenty of folks on there that "know everything" and moan a lot.

By virtue of the fact that I haven't seen loads of whinging threads on there I really think its a mix up.

Fingers crossed.

Raining in Bolivia today...Don't like that

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Re: Truck MOT

Postby Reece » Sat Aug 04, 2018 1:30 pm

I got my MOT last week (7.5 tonne). Apart from the massive faff of trying to find and get to a place that could do Class 4 AND lorries, I didn't notice anything different from getting a car MOT.

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Re: Truck MOT

Postby ClivePhoto » Sat Aug 04, 2018 1:32 pm

I use Ditchling MOTs these days. Mine is due in September so hopefully you will have resolved this by now. As I understand it your MOT guy was not what one might call ultra strict so maybe there's been a change of personnel?

As far as I can tell from what I've read the main change would affect the "test as presented" brigade because there's something on the V5 some testers are insisting on seeing to confirm it actually registered as a motor caravan before they'll test it as such.

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Re: Truck MOT

Postby sparks101 » Sat Aug 04, 2018 4:13 pm

Thanks for the input guys, i was quite shocked at first by some of the things my usual tester said. One of which was that they are no longer allowed to test the vehicle. They will check it all over and pre test it, then take it to a HGV test centre and present it there for testing.
I trust this guy so I don't think he is trying to have me over, the testing has changed and this is how THEY interpret it. This garage usually tests a lot of overlanders.

Obviously needs clarifying and I will start to look.
Steve the date/age of vehicle related stuff maybe a great help.

If anyone finds anything maybe they could include a link on here. I may try another MOT centre in my area, if I can find one.
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Andy

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Re: Truck MOT

Postby robin101fc » Sun Aug 05, 2018 8:41 am

I have my RB44 (MGVW 5300kg) booked in for an MOT on the 20th. All they said was bring it in at 12.00 so will have to see what happens.

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Re: Truck MOT

Postby crinklystarfish » Sun Aug 05, 2018 9:33 am

Changes Overview:

https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... m-may-2018

New Testers' Manual:

https://www.mot-testing.service.gov.uk/ ... class3457/

There are some new requirements relating to spring brakes and such like that I suspect the staff at the garage aren't (yet) qualified to test hence the need to ship the truck off to the DVSA test centre itself.

There might be some stuff relating to plates for weights and emissions relating to 25 yr-old vehicles but if there is I haven't personally spotted it.
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Re: Truck MOT

Postby sparks101 » Mon Aug 06, 2018 9:06 pm

Found this, it's around the updates but relates to documents from 2006. However it does state quite clearly what is and what isn't a motor caravan

https://www.ukmotorhomes.net/motorhome-faqs/motorhome-mots

trying to find something more up to date

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Re: Truck MOT

Postby NeilandPat » Mon Aug 06, 2018 11:28 pm

I think its quite clear in that link that we are all motor caravans.

The problem being is the date being 2006.

We don't know if its been changed.

Hopefully it is simply an interpretation issue.

Did you get get to speak to re manager, I think his name could be Owen, to try and understand their thinking.

What we need is for another member to get an MOT elsewhere with a vehicle registered as a Motor caravan.

It might be worth sounding out the garage in Detling that Clive mentioned or Wood commercials in Ayelsham, Kent.

I have had an MOT there and they are sound
Watching with interest here..

Neil


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