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So, probably a stupid question, but...

Postby DaveS » Sun Feb 04, 2018 10:24 pm

.. does no one actually sell any overland truck anymore in the UK? Very few seem to come up - none on here for ages... weird!?!

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Re: So, probably a stupid question, but...

Postby Rusape » Mon Feb 05, 2018 3:21 pm

Dave I dont' really think the UK is the market for these vehicles. Much bigger market and more common/acceptable on the continent. The UK leads Europe for caravan sales, and think that is the more acceptable market here.

There are also 2 other constraints here... HGV licencing requirements and RHD. Many countries that are LHD do not like, or even allow RHD vehicles.

Oh yes and they are expensive to build in the first place so ties up a lot of capital in what is ostensibly a wasting asset.

My 2c..

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Re: So, probably a stupid question, but...

Postby DaveS » Wed Feb 07, 2018 11:39 pm

I guess you're right, but it seems a bit weird - there actually seems to be growing interest in this kind of thing in the UK (Overland Show being a case in point) - but there doesn't seem to be any real second hand market. Even the market for sub 7.5T trucks seems pretty thin, and good luck finding a decent 4x4 van for reasonable money - from what I can see my Sprinter 4x4 is gaining value!

Once people build them, they keep them...?

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Re: So, probably a stupid question, but...

Postby crinklystarfish » Thu Feb 08, 2018 9:14 am

A few things pop to mind.

They're a big commitment.

Even in places where we might perceive there's a big second-hand market, overlanding trucks remain a very niche and esoteric product with a tiny proportion of consumers that would actually commit to ownership.

Prospective owners tend towards a desire to own an entirely bespoke product that suits their own needs and what someone else perceives as the ultimate travel machine may not suit someone else. This drives second-hand value down.

Faced with the prospect of a truck that's not worth much and having to start the whole purchase / build process again many owners will undoubtedly conclude that hanging on to what they have is the best option.

I'll sell you mine for the capital invested and for my labour charged at a rate of £10 per hour. So for a pretty crude 24 year old truck that most likely won't be suitable in terms of base vehicle capability, habitation layout, equipment and systems choices, and have little resale value; that'll be offers around £65,000 please.

On the plus side - the UK scene is growing. When I first started planning in about 2008, there were probably only half a dozen overlanding trucks in the UK. As interest grows, so might the market.

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Re: So, probably a stupid question, but...

Postby DaveS » Thu Feb 08, 2018 6:59 pm

LOL!

All fair comments. Seem to see a few prepared Unimogs around, Atkinson Vos have had a couple recently, or Merc Varios in various states of preparation and rust, but otherwise very few and far between.

As you say, the potential resale value vs the investment in time and money is a kicker... so unlike conventional motorhomes and campers I guess people tend to build a van or truck they intend to keep indefinitely.

In terms of what we're thinking - you're also right, in as much as we're travelling with 2 kids, so our requirements tend to be influenced by that...


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